1. laurieherault 2 days ago
    Author here. It’s my first article. I’m a bit nervous but excited to get your feedback. If you deal with procrastination too, I hope this method helps you like it helped me.
    1. uncircle 2 days ago
      I was about to be a little snarky but your comment reminded me to be kind. Thanks.

      I don't have a receipt printer, what helps me is an A4-sized whiteboard with marker when I feel like I'm falling behind my tasks. Also, to use todos sparingly, so they retain their effectiveness. It's actually quite underrated to forget and let go of tasks; what's important tends to stick around in your head and keep you up at night.

      The snark was from my personal experience that serial procrastinators ride a particular high when they change their methods, especially if they spend money for something that hopefully solves their issues. It never lasts long, we return to baseline quite fast. This is why there is tons of posts about "here's how I solved my procrastination issue" when they've only used the supposed panacea for a couple of days. What's I find more interesting, is methods that have worked for someone for years. Then one can claim to have found a cure, albeit one that probably only works for them.

      In any case, keep writing. It helps a lot if you too suffer from squirrel brain.

      1. RankingMember 13 hours ago
        > The snark was from my personal experience that serial procrastinators ride a particular high when they change their methods, especially if they spend money for something that hopefully solves their issues. It never lasts long, we return to baseline quite fast. This is why there is tons of posts about "here's how I solved my procrastination issue" when they've only used the supposed panacea for a couple of days.

        This reflects my experience as well. Whether it's getting a special little "Getting Things Done" notebook/app or getting the accessories involved in this post, before long my brain has "helpfully" optimized them back out of my life and I'm back at square one.

      2. laurieherault 2 days ago
        Thank you for your message!

        You are absolutely right, and I have actually tried lots of different things and abandoned just as many methods after only a few days. But what pushed me to write this article is that this time, it was different. After several months, this method is still holding up.

      3. souvlakee 2 days ago
        > serial procrastinators ride a particular high when they change their methods, especially if they spend money... It never lasts long, we return to baseline quite fast

        That's probably why the author has beginner tasks on the whiteboard like making a bed, washing the dishes, etc. It's hard to imagine having such tasks throughout one's entire life while struggling with procrastination.

        1. laurieherault 2 days ago
          Yes, that is exactly why this method works. Because breaking tasks down into micro-tasks really does work. And the ticket printer helps remove as much friction as possible.

          That is what makes it a method that requires very little time and energy, and therefore something that can be sustained over the long term.

          1. kstrauser 21 hours ago
            That matches my experience. “Write the report” will sit in my inbox forever. “Add 10 items to the outline for the report” will usually break the inertia and end up with me finishing the whole thing.
            1. resize2996 9 hours ago
              Then if "Add 10 items" seems to be sitting around for a while, I change it to "Add 5 items".

              The part where I end up finishing the whole thing doesn't always happen, but breaking it down into chunks that I can power my way through even if I'm in the worst mood with the worst working conditions at least lets me accomplish a small thing and get a better sense of the task for the next time I try. Sometimes "Add 5 Items" actually turns into "Add 2 items and realize you only need 7 total items."

              Some of my procrastination is "I haven't started the task because I can't completely visualize it, I can't completely visualize it because I haven't started the task."

            2. alexey-salmin 6 hours ago
              You should try harder, I can easily keep “Add 10 items to the outline for the report” or even "Add 1 item" tasks in my inbox forever.
              1. kstrauser 4 hours ago
                Oh, I’m great at that. Trust me.
      4. grandiego 3 hours ago
        > What's I find more interesting, is methods that have worked for someone for years.

        From 2020 I use a three column worksheet (Libreoffice in Debian): one row per day. One thin column for the date, the second for pending tasks, the third for the "done" ones. Theoretically I just copy-paste between the "pendings" to the "done", but I also add notes as the day progress, so it is also a kind of personal diary. At the end of the day tasks not achieved get moved to some rows below, and new ones are added as needed. The spreadsheet is configured to start automatically on session login, so I can't forget to see my daily assignment. Not perfect, but (mostly) works for me.

      5. aidenn0 1 days ago
        4-8 weeks is about the range that a new task system works for me. Probably not coincidentally I had As in most of my classes around the midterms, but graduated with a C average (a semester was 17 weeks at my university).
      6. Groxx 1 days ago
        Whiteboards have been my main strategy too. And a little while ago I ran across this: https://community.frame.work/t/whiteboard-input-module/58985 and bought the same stickers and pens and it works much better than I expected - the pens write super-durably for dry-erase and light bumping doesn't erase them at all. I have weeks-old reminders on there that are almost new looking.

        For day to day stuff I just use a more normal whiteboard that I do my best to erase at the end of the day, and migrate longer term stuff to some other location. I like it better than a regimented "always empty" system since reasonable leakage from one day to the next is pretty common for me.

        1. uncircle 1 days ago
          The good thing about todos on physical objects like a whiteboard is that the space is limited. Todo software tends to accumulate tasks until there are so many you’re overwhelmed with anxiety just opening the app, and pruning them would be yet another tasks on top of the mountain.
          1. Groxx 1 days ago
            Yep. Forces me to erase some and/or move it to some kind of backlog that I never look at.
      7. deadbabe 1 days ago
        If you’re procrastinating, but then find a method that works and go on to use it for several years, you didn’t have a procrastination issue, you just didn’t know how to get started.

        Chronic procrastinators will inevitably procrastinate no matter what method they find.

        1. uncircle 1 days ago
          Yes, that's true, but chronic procrastinators also get older which means they know what works best for them, and also accept that some stuff might fall through the cracks, and that's perfectly fine.

          Wanting to have a perfectly organised life is unrealistic. We're not machines, but we're bombarded by the message that we can do better at organising our lives, often by those that want to sell us their product.

    2. kortex 2 days ago
      I love it. Using a thermal printer to print physical tasks you can crumple on completion and throw in a bin is absolute madlad goblin energy and I'm all for it. I think you've actually perfectly distilled the essence of "game-loop" and operant conditioning, and mapped it to the real world. I have been using a whiteboard for tasks, which is better than nothing, but the problem with that approach is the feedback is minor, and once erased, it's like "wtf did I even do this week". So there is limited short-term feedback and zero long-term feedback. You need both the power-up noise and the level progression for a loop to be satisfying.

      I have been planning on making a system based on those long scrolls of paper for doodle boards, so at least there is a history, but of course I procrastinated on building the mount for it.

      I would love to use your application, I know there's a million to-do apps out there but I get the overwhelm/daunting very easily, so I really appreciate the scope-hiding aspect.

      1. coryk135 5 hours ago
        Instead of crumpling, put a fun sticker on the task to mark it complete!

        You could also put the task on a spike like they do in restaurants with signed receipts.

      2. laurieherault 1 days ago
        Thank you for your comment. Seeing the tickets in the jar really helps you feel like you actually got something done.

        I cannot wait for you to try my app :)

        1. ascorbic 21 hours ago
          As a former chef who lived by tasks on paper tickets for several years, I recommend getting a tab grabber and spike, for an extra little dopamine hit. It's very satisfying to pull the receipt from the grabber and spike it
          1. RankingMember 13 hours ago
            Definitely a tactily-satisfying motion. Those spikes always freaked me out- you're one slip away from a Final Destination "spike through the eyeball" situation.
          2. ventricity 19 hours ago
            I love this, a great improvement or alternative on the original idea.
        2. flir 1 days ago
          One comment: You're dopamine hacking. My belief is that eventually the process will stop rewarding you with dopamine, and you'll drop it.

          Games eventually stop rewarding you with dopamine, and your brain loses interest in them. Same goes for the jar. ADHD brain needs to keep changing the process, in order to keep the reward novel. What works today won't work in six weeks.

          (With me it was tearing the index card in half when I'd finished the task. Very satisfying - for a while)

          1. Lu2025 12 hours ago
            > dopamine hacking

            Can we just not? Can we wean ourselves from the "addiction" instead?

        3. QuantumGood 9 hours ago
          What features are you planning for your app?
    3. colgandev 1 days ago
      Thank you so much for writing this. I have recently discovered that I have both autism and ADHD, and increasingly it feels like this mind style has a steep counterintuitive learning curve but also very high skill ceiling.

      The video game analogy rings very true for me. It helps me a lot to read articles like yours because it gives me new ideas to try. I fully agree with your premise and I've been experimenting with indeed card based systems but have been frustrated by, as you noted, how having to repeatedly make the cards every day basically means I'll probably stop doing it. The receipt printer is a fantastic idea. Making mental only systems physical seems to invoke the spatial parts of the brain. I've been trying to find good ways to synchronize my mental, digital, and physical information. I'd love to read more of your ideas if you publish anything else on your mailing list. Cheers

      1. laurieherault 1 days ago
        Thank you so much for your comment, it means a lot to me!
    4. adamsilkey 2 days ago
      I loved your article! Thank you so much for sharing. Fellow procrastinator struggler here.

      What's been working for me lately is carrying a Field Notes notebook everywhere with me combined with some of the ideas you talk about here (breaking down tasks into smaller and smaller pieces). It's the perfect size for me to carry around every day.

      It's also been helpful as I've been defaulting to opening up my notebook as my basic distraction device as opposed to opening up my phone.

      1. laurieherault 2 days ago
        Thank you for your comment. It is so important to be able to resist the temptation of a bad distraction.
    5. ayhanfuat 2 days ago
      I loved it. I think it perfectly captures the itch that causes procrastination: you had a working solution but it was not good enough for you. You've perfected it but you still have issues with it. You still managed to live with the imperfect version while working on improving it, though. I think that's the part most of us procrastinators fail.
      1. laurieherault 2 days ago
        Yes, that’s exactly it! If the system doesn’t work 100% or feels like a hassle, we just abandon it. You’ve summed it up perfectly!
    6. vsupalov 18 hours ago
      Really appreciate the graphics, in-between summary elements and the progress bar widget. A bit too much colorful font variants my taste as it leans towards distracting, but hey everybody is different. That was a swell read, thanks for sharing!

      As far as "app which helps create overview, reduce overwhelm and taks small steps" - I wonder how many of those are out there? I have written about 3 of those already for various use cases and in different flavors. Using them over a longer period of time, once the chaos subsides or the novelty wears off seems to be hard for me personally.

    7. hyperific 2 days ago
      I just picked up a used thermal printer to try it out myself and I'm looking forward to the release of the code.

      I did notice that on mobile the left edge of text on your website is cut off by about half a character.

      Also I liked how reading the article was its own game loop with progress bar, level up notifications and items! I hope you use that on future posts!

      1. laurieherault 2 days ago
        I will probably release the software as source-closed, but if you need help making a custom script, feel free to email me (you can find the address in the footer of my website).

        What phone model do you have? I suspect the screen is on the narrow side.

        Yes, I am even going to make a real little game to show that you can get absorbed by a very simple game if it uses the gameplay loop and multiple feedback mechanisms correctly.

        Thank you for your comment!

    8. genezeta 2 days ago
      Just so you know.

      Offtopic but rewarding your article on Firefox on Android, there's a slight misalignment on the side. The left side gets cut off about 5-8 pixels, I'd say. It cuts off most of the first letter on every line.

      It might be just my phone, of course. But I don't have any particular extensions installed or anything else.

      1. stevage 15 hours ago
        I have the same problem - missed the first couple of letters on every line. Also FF on Android (Pixel 5).
      2. petemir 2 days ago
        fyi I tried on my Android phone with Firefox and I don't see the problem you mention. Perhaps some additional display specs may be useful? My screen is 6.67" with 1080x2400px (20:9, 395ppi).
      3. laurieherault 2 days ago
        I also think, like petemir, that it is a width issue. What model do you have?

        Thank you for your comment! It is super helpful.

        1. genezeta 1 days ago
          Ah, sorry for not answering sooner.

          Admittedly it's not a hi-end phone. I use a Moto G7. Screen is 1080x2270 at 6.2 inches according to [ https://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g7-9357.php#eu ]

          Trying it again to verify... You're right that it's the width. I get a small-ish horizontal scroll. But the problem is that no matter if I scroll it completely to that side the left still gets cut off.

      4. genezeta 1 days ago
        s/rewarding/reading/
    9. plumbees 1 days ago
      The first two paragraphs made me realize I have ADHD. I had thought I didn't have it.
      1. chrz 19 hours ago
        I realized after 40 years. I had a talk with a guy with ADHD about how drinking coffee makes us sleepy
        1. LeonM 17 hours ago
          The one thing that is often a dead giveaway is how many stimulants seem to have the opposite effect on people with ADHD.

          I have ADHD, amfetamines help me relax, caffeine causes me to fall a sleep, some anti-allergy medication can cause me to stay awake for 2 days straight.

          I read that in some countries doctors can prescribe mild sleeping pills for babies to help them stay calm during long flights. They always advice to test it before going on the flight, because some babies can actually become hyperactive from that medication. If that happens, there's a good chance the baby has ADHD.

          1. rwyinuse 9 hours ago
            I think it still varies a lot between individuals. Caffeine often makes me more anxious, the effect on mental energy levels seems kind of random (either short burst of energy or just more tired mentally). Yet when I tried methylphenidate it made my mind calmer, clearly reduced anxiety and helped focus while increasing energy. At the same time it gave me pretty bad insomnia, stomach issues etc.

            The best I can describe it is that I felt calmer in my mind, but overstimulated in my physical nervous system.

          2. imzadi 9 hours ago
            This has been the most difficult part for me. I see people in reddit subs talk about how stimulants changed their lives. They are suddenly alert and productive and happy with the world. I get medication envy. I take adderal and fall asleep. Other stimulants I either get no effect or I get anxiety and zero benefits. It's very frustrating.
          3. throwaway173738 9 hours ago
            It’s diphenhydramine, or Sudafed. Also sometimes sold as Unisom but to be distinguished from the Unisom that is Doxylamine. My 18-mo old had the paradoxical reaction.
            1. teach 6 hours ago
              You mention three different medications here:

              - diphenhydramine aka Benedryl is an antihistamine with a common side effect of sleepiness

              - doxylamine aka Unisom is also an antihistamine but these days people only really use it as a sleep aid or for nausea

              - psuedoephedrine aka Sudafed is a decongestant. Not sold over-the-counter because it can be used to make meth. It's a stimulant and appetite supressant

              Finally, there's "Sudafed PE" aka phenylephrine, which is also sold as a decongestant but it (literally) doesn't work

          4. dizze 16 hours ago
            I think it depends on what sort of ADHD it is and what stimulant. I feel somewhat more alert after a coffee, but cocaine does nothing. Amphetamines calm the noise from my mind, but make it more difficult to sleep if they're long-release ones.
      2. laurieherault 1 days ago
        I think a lot of people are unaware of it :(
    10. ffin 2 days ago
      Great article, however, the word interactive in this sentence is styled like a link despite not being one, which was kind of frustrating.

        > Test the concept in this interactive demo:
      1. laurieherault 2 days ago
        Thank you!

        You are right! I will change it!

    11. freetanga 19 hours ago
      Hello! I did a similar thing - however I use TXTs and command line scripts to keep track of things (similar to task warrior). It's a great approach to pick up the list every morning as I have breakfast, put it in my notebook as I leave for the day.

      Calendar, weather, to-dos, all in a single thing I can keep in my wallet if needed. I recall somebody posted a project for printing daily news on the roll too (I don't)

      1. 2muchcoffeeman 19 hours ago
        I think the authors solution is clever since this is like getting orders in a kitchen.

        You dont have to do this yourself. A partner or friend could remind you about stuff and literally send you an order.

        I’d personally use one of those spikes instead of scrunching up in a ball.

    12. pmarreck 2 days ago
      The thing with the different columns of tasks broken down into subtasks could be replicated in any columnar filesystem view that opens the contents of a folder into a new column when you click on it, meaning every folder is a to-do!
      1. coliveira 2 days ago
        Exactly what I thought, if you have macOS, just create a folder and use the columnar view.
      2. laurieherault 2 days ago
        Yes, exactly! But as coliveira said, you need a Mac.
    13. stared 1 days ago
      Thank you for sharing!

      I am curious for two things:

      - How you stay motivated to create this task list each time. Or for another question - is it a new cool recipe, or have you been sticking to it for more that 3 months?

      - What to do so not to go into the rabbit hole of creating and splitting tasks? For me, it is easy to overdo this step, both in breadth (too many things to accomplish) and in detail (too many steps; if you think about it, making and easting a sandwich is a dozen steps or so).

    14. lorenzk 15 hours ago
      What a great color scheme! Changing colors over the course of the article makes it all a bit more fun and quirky and stand out against common templates.
      1. inquirerGeneral 4 hours ago
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    15. lipowitz 2 days ago
      It's a very interesting solution. I've been thinking more about filling my online time sheet system in advance but I suspect its too impractical to stick to times or keep readjusting with interruptions, so maybe I will try post-its.

      I notice a bit of a link in behaviors between people I know who have ADHD and/or OCD. I'm not really sure what someone who "gives-in" to OCD impulses would feel as side effects, etc.. But I'm kind of curious if you see a downside to having followed loops for their reinforcing effects over days of work, etc?

      1. laurieherault 2 days ago
        Thanks for your feedback!

        Yes, the system needs to have as little friction as possible, otherwise it becomes very difficult to maintain. That’s why the ticket printer is interesting.

        I don’t really suffer from OCD so it’s hard to say, but it’s a very interesting question. I hope someone will be able to answer it someday.

    16. PKop 1 days ago
      I would avoid massively increasing your exposure to receipts. They have endocrine disrupting chemicals and it's advised to not even handle them from retail stores let alone in higher quantities in your own home.

      https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/receipt-paper-harmful/

      1. laurieherault 1 days ago
        Since the article was written, bisphenol has been banned in Europe.
      2. wiml 10 hours ago
        You can buy phenol-free thermal paper.
      3. Noumenon72 13 hours ago
        If the grocery store cashiers aren't getting cancer from handling 150 receipts a day then the todo list should be fine.
    17. ArekDymalski 17 hours ago
      Congratulations on your first article - it's a really good one. I found the jar filling method especially inspiring. Thanks a lot and good luck with the launch!
    18. A_Stefan 17 hours ago
      This article is so good! I applaud your efforts into making a change for your life for the better.

      Liked you included one of many studies from M Csikszentmihalyi

    19. widforss 1 days ago
      This is great. I'm starting a new job after the summer. I'll get a printer and set it up in my new office and let it automatically print tasks.
    20. sirwhinesalot 2 days ago
      I'm glad you found a method that works for you, and as a fellow small-time blog author I can say I quite enjoyed reading your post.

      Sadly, I've tried the task breakdown stuff before and it hasn't helped. It's not even just the fact that I procrastinate doing it, but that even when I manage to do it, it makes no difference.

      Anything that requires more than a one off "session" of intellectual work is doomed. Even if I do manage to do some good work for a period of time, I'll undo it later, I cannot stop myself from throwing everything in the bin. If I force myself not to throw it in the bin, my brain refuses to function.

      ADHD medication also does nothing to help me. It makes me feel anxious for a bit, gives me a pile of side effects, and that's about it. I've tried increasing the dose and all it did was make the side effects worse (including extremely smelly sweat, for whatever reason).

      Cognitive Behavioral Therapy? Helped a little while I was doing it, then I reverted back to normal.

      I've even tried the whole accountability thing, but nope. Even if I'm on a call with someone who (like me) commits to do a task, and actually does it, while I committed to do mine, my brain will just tune out and at best I'll be able to do something on autopilot (works for loading up the dishwasher, but not much else).

      On the days I manage to burn my willpower to fight it, it drains my energy like Windows 11 does battery on a portable gaming handheld.

      Perhaps one day I'll find my own solution and become a multi-millionaire selling a book on it.

      1. aaronbaugher 2 days ago
        Nothing helps me procrastinate like trying out a new trick, a new tool, a new list-making method, etc. I've killed time on dozens of different solutions, and some of them were pretty good at getting me to focus and work hard on implementing that new method, but none translated much into getting more actual work done earlier.

        Nothing really helped with that until one day I realized I was getting too old to keep being broke because I wouldn't finish work until I absolutely had to, so I got a job where other people give me stuff to do and expect it within a reasonable time frame. I still procrastinate more than I should, but there's too much to do for me to do nothing, so I'm always getting through something, and maybe that will become a habit.

        But I hope tools and methods like this help others. It seems like every new method is a great fit for someone out there.

        1. laurieherault 2 days ago
          I totally recognize myself in your comment!
          1. aaronbaugher 2 days ago
            My first comments may have sounded pessimistic, but I do think you've found a couple interesting ideas that I haven't seen before, in making individual notes for your daily habits and throwing the crumpled notes in a jar. I have a couple pads of sticky notes in front of me right now, to get started on items for tomorrow, so thanks for the inspiration.

            I've tried sticky notes before, but tended to use those just for the bigger tasks, while thinking I should put my regular daily habits on a single sheet that I could check off, to keep the sticky notes from becoming an unruly mess. But then the daily list always got neglected. I still got the dishes done, but I wouldn't get it checked off, so the overall system fell apart. Putting every task in the same single-note format may feel like overkill, but may be what it takes to work.

            1. laurieherault 1 days ago
              Yes, that is exactly it. It is annoying to do, but it works well, at least for me.
      2. laurieherault 2 days ago
        I totally understand! Just for this article, I restarted it 12 times!

        What really made a difference for me was starting very very very very very small, with almost no ambition. That is truly the most important point in my article, but I am not sure if I managed to communicate it clearly.

        The idea is really to say something like: my goal is to write for 5 minutes, and if that is too hard, I do 2 minutes. And if I manage that, I consider the task done and I can pick another one, also 5 minutes long.

        This gives me a real sense of accomplishment and helps me focus on what I have already done instead of everything that is left to do.

        1. sirwhinesalot 2 days ago
          Yup, I'm familiar, I've tried it, but my brain is somehow unable to treat the small accomplished tasks as separate from the larger task.

          It still costs me the same "percentage of willpower", if you will, as I would have spent tackling it as the first step of the larger task. And once the willpower runs out, it's out.

          With video games it's not that different. What keeps me playing aren't the small rewards. If small rewards were enough to keep me going I'd play pacman all the time. The only thing that keeps me going is curiosity.

          1. aaronbaugher 2 days ago
            Yep. Right now I'm trying to start an instructional video series. I know that I need to break it down into tasks and sub-tasks, and I've done that. So I could go pick a sub-task off the list, like "design a thumbnail image," and just work on that. But as soon as I think of doing that, the entire project looms over me, and I freeze up thinking about the whole thing, including even thoughts like "What do I do in 6 months if I'm out of ideas and I have paying subscribers expecting new content?"

            I don't know how to zoom in mentally on a tiny, manageable task and block out the rest. I'm usually unable to start on any part of a project until I can comfortably hold the whole project in my mind.

          2. laurieherault 2 days ago
            I understand perfectly, when I'm curious or it's new it's so easy!
      3. mietek 18 hours ago
        > ADHD medication also does nothing to help me.

        I found that the usual ADHD medication (methylphenidate) does not work for me. However, modafinil does. YMMV.

        https://gwern.net/Modafinil

    21. WhyNotHugo 1 days ago
      Really well written. Thanks for sharing!
      1. laurieherault 1 days ago
        Thank you!
    22. encom 2 days ago
      It's a great and well written article. I read all of it, and as a fellow ADHD sufferer, that's rare. :)

      My experiences with ADHD align pretty closely with yours. We're of a similar age, but I was only diagnosed recently, and I'm still settling into this, adjusting medication and so on. But just knowing now what's wrong with me, is a game changer. It means I can work with it or around it, instead of being in a state of frustration and despair that I can't function like everyone around me.

      In my experience, if I find a task interesting and intellectually stimulating, I can grind away at it for hours and lose track of time. But if it's boring and tedious, it's nearly impossible for me to make any progress at all, unless the consequences for not completing it are severe.

      Breaking down tasks is a good idea, and it's something I've thought of myself. Just vacuum the stairs. Just press New Document in LibreOffice and write ONE sentence. Just wipe down the bathroom mirror. I'm not sure I'm ready for a solution as elaborate as yours, though I find the technical aspect of it fascinating, and I might explore it just for that reason.

      1. laurieherault 2 days ago
        Thanks for your comment!

        I totally relate to the way you described it! You can try my solution in a really simple way using post-it notes. Just do a few tests and see if it works for you!

    23. dakial1 15 hours ago
      Good article and DYI work. But I was surprised that you didn't plug a GenAi api to break the tasks for you, maybe on version 2.0?
  2. whalee 2 days ago
    Cool idea!

    I would note there are some known health hazards in handling thermal-paper receipts(BPA/BPS)[1] with your bare hands if you do so often. I don't know much beyond this, I would look into it.

    [1] https://www.pca.state.mn.us/business-with-us/bpa-and-bps-in-...

    1. grandiego 3 hours ago
      Right, epiphenols. And despite some BPA-free options there are many alerts about the risks of the replacements. Maybe is time for a cool old style matrix receipt printer using regular paper?
    2. jw1224 2 days ago
      You can buy phenol-free thermal paper, it’s about 20% more expensive where I live but much safer for you, and the quality is just as good.
    3. entrepy123 1 days ago
      Yes, safety of thermal paper is the first issue that comes to mind.

      Secondly, IME thermal print can fade to nothing after 1-10 years. So these are specifically for short-ish-term use. Not for labeling something that is supposed to last a long time.

    4. fy20 9 hours ago
      You can also use dot matrix / impact receipt printers, they work in the same way, just with an ink reel. So no special paper needed.

      They are used in kitchens where thermal paper obviously won't work. Other advantages are they can usually print two colours: black and red. And the sound is rather satisfying :-)

    5. laurieherault 2 days ago
      Yes, very true. It's paper with bisphenol. These papers are now banned in Europe, but not in the USA.
    6. kiliankoe 20 hours ago
      It's come up every time something related to thermal printing has been mentioned on HN lately, but this is honestly great stuff if you're in Germany: https://www.oekobon.de/

      These non-poisonous blue receipts have the added benefit of being able to be marked with a fingernail, which is nifty if you're using them to print your shopping list, crossing things off is very satisfying.

      1. JacketPotato 17 hours ago
        Are these the ones that Lidl use?
        1. kiliankoe 17 hours ago
          And many other retailers, yes!
    7. JacketPotato 17 hours ago
      Good point, but luckily it's pretty easy now to find BPA free paper.
  3. abalone 8 hours ago
    That's really cool. I will just add that in my experience, with a bit of conditioning it is possible to get this satisfaction from crossing things off digital lists. The benefits are manifold:

    - It saves paper

    - It's easier and faster to reprioritize tasks

    - It's always with you in your pocket

    Personally I use Apple Notes which has checklists, as opposed to a task management system or even Reminders. The flexibility of just writing things into a freeform note and hitting a button to turn them into todos is the right balance of low friction and just enough structure. Hitting that circle to check it off when done is actually quite satisfying.

    Bonus: I added a keyboard shortcut for strikethru which adds some extra satisfaction of crossing off the task (or portions of a task that i've written out).

  4. standardUser 1 days ago
    Maybe someone can relate to me on this...

    > With this new system, I haven't missed tracking my habits even once.

    When I'm in a productive era like that it mostly feels amazing. But it also comes with this looming threat that it can't go on like that forever. The feeling that maintaining such a high standard will only lead to a big fall once something inevitably disrupts the system. It also creates a sense of burden because by being so 'active' in the world, people come to expect you to remain active. And many of the tasks you've completed lead to more tasks that wouldn't exist if you had just stayed lazy.

    This, combined with the realization that I can get away with doing almost nothing productive as long as I have a job, has made it hard for me to even want to be productive.

    1. andai 1 days ago
      You've put into words beautifully one of my main argument against getting a job.

      I have a better one though: a job leaves almost no time or energy for actual work.

      1. standardUser 1 days ago
        For me, a stable job is key. The structure and accountability makes it hard to fail, and my (relative) lack of ambition ensures I don't over-commit or stress too much over work. It's everything else that I get lazy about! I have plenty of time, but it's too easy to do fun but unproductive activities.

        If something doesn't trigger my "oh no, this will lead to more responsibility" alarms, I can be very productive. For example, I love to plan a trip, because it has a discrete start and end and is entirely within my control.

      2. nemomarx 1 days ago
        What's your alternative solution for paying rent / getting food?

        Not having a job feels like a good option if you can select into it but the barrier is high for me

    2. jimbokun 7 hours ago
      Are you happy?

      If so, don't change anything.

      Otherwise, if the lack of doing anything productive is bothering you, search for work that

      1. seems meaningful to you, 2. has enjoyable aspects to it (no job will be fun all the time), 3. renumerates you sufficiently to meet your current standard of living or at least a standard of living you can accept.

      THEN you will have the sufficient motivation to be productive where looking for a system that helps you be productive could be useful.

      Alternatively, there's always entrepreneurship, depending on your appetite for risk and stress.

    3. antihero 17 hours ago
      I find any system I create works really well because it's exciting and interesting, and then I get bored of the system, and it becomes ineffective.
    4. hoseyor 17 hours ago
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  5. jw1224 2 days ago
    Great first article, and very interesting to see someone else using a receipt printer for bite-sized task management!

    I have a variety of automations running which print actionable tasks to my receipt printer via a Raspberry Pi. It’s nice having a real-life ticket I can take hold of.

    One thing to be aware of if you’re handling receipts frequently: make sure to buy phenol-free thermal paper. Phenol is toxic and some types of it are banned in certain countries.

    1. laurieherault 2 days ago
      Yes, I think having a tangible task is really important!

      Since I’m in Europe, we don’t really have paper with bisphenol anymore, but that’s not the case everywhere.

      1. cocothem 2 days ago
        What about the ink? What's the keyword to search for nom toxic printer ink/cartridge
        1. rozab 2 days ago
          Receipt printers don't use ink, instead they use thermal paper which darkens when heated. You can test this by scratching it with your nail, the heat is enough to leave a mark
          1. gaudystead 1 days ago
            I agree with you on the first part, but are you sure that the heat from the fingernail is what's leaving that mark? I can take a cold object and run it on the receipt paper to get the same effect, so I think that's a different mechanism at play but I'm open to being proven wrong.
            1. z2 1 days ago
              The developers in the paper only require a small flash of local heat to turn black, which is why thermal printers can print so fast given the time it takes to heat up and cool down the print head. Friction produces enough heat to do that. You can test this by pressing an object down only, or running it very slowly across the surface in comparison.
        2. joseda-hg 2 days ago
          I thought most receipt printers were thermal, no ink, just heat
      2. hgomersall 2 days ago
        AFAICT, BPS is still widely used in Europe.
    2. fauria 2 days ago
      Is there any way of knowing, just by examining it, whether a given thermal paper is toxic or not?
      1. account42 2 days ago
        Yes, you look at it carefully and if it looks like thermal paper it may be toxic.

        If the substances used are known to be toxic is another matter but you won't know that even with a correct label because it takes time for us to find out that new substances are toxic.

        1. z2 2 days ago
          I think this is the right approach, speaking as someone who went down the rabbit-hole of looking at alternative non-bisphenol or non-phenol image developers. The very little research on the new ones tend to conclude "we don't know if it's toxic in the long term" or in the case of urea-based papers, "it's highly toxic against aquatic life."

          To the GP, if the goal is to avoid phenol papers, phenol papers tend to develop deeper black. And in the US, phenol-free papers are new enough the backside often advertises it. Some are very misleadingly labeled BPA-free, which usually means it's made with the very similar and likely equally toxic BPS.

        2. fauria 1 days ago
          Thank you for your insightful reply, I greatly appreciate it. However, it does not answer my question, unfortunately.
  6. xp84 1 days ago
    The "tasks on slips" remind me of the Cast Deployment System that was used at Walt Disney World 20 years ago (not sure when it started or how it evolved, but it was in use then).

    All cast members in every park and other location were dispatched by PCs with receipt printers. To begin a shift or return from a break, you typed in your number to a CDS PC (located basically behind any convenient backstage door). The PC would just print a slip of paper and log your out. The slip would be one of:

    1. Relieve John Doe at <Position> in <Location>. John Doe: return to PC (I think it also had a multi-stage bump possibility, where you replace John and John is sent directly to bump Bob.)

    1b. Relieve John Doe. John's break time Start: 9:05 End 9:35

    2. Do <TASK> until 9:08 (e.g. Straighten plush in <STORE NAME> or Stock candy in <STORE NAME>)

    3. You're released to go home

    It was a wildly efficient system, which basically allowed their operations software, which presumably knew about attendance, ride wait times, store sales, etc. to put each person to the most useful position at any moment, and also to give people specific useful things to do during slow periods (or indeed to release them early if they didn't have anything actually important for them to do).

    1. sbierwagen 1 days ago
      Reading the description of this system, I wonder if Marshall Brain knew of it when he wrote Manna, which sounds like a fancier version with an AI gloss: https://marshallbrain.com/manna1
      1. xp84 1 days ago
        Yes, I thought of that when I read Manna like 15 years ago!! Also, I get the impression that he was one of the most prescient minds of a generation. I can only hope his "good" ending is in the cards for us.
    2. djtriptych 1 days ago
      that's pretty amazing and not at all how I thought the park would run. Thanks for sharing.
  7. tekkk 1 days ago
    Great article! Many ideas that I have also noticed put together, nicely done. Although I'm kinda curious how long you have used this system to truly "know" it's bullet-proof.

    In my experience, all systems fail without outside pressure and/or right nutrition and exercise. If I eat a lot of carbs and in general, gain fat and dont exercise I get nothing done. Eating ketoish and exercising every 2/3 days and I get a lot done.

    Thinking about work as loops is the right idea, I do agree. Human brains slowly accomodate new thought-patterns and one must continously keep at them to make them appear easy. Any time I come back after vacation I feel immediate exhaustion and repulsion towards programming even though it's easy to me. You just lose the familiarity.

    Anyway, I write tasks down as well although my system is just a webapp I built for myself. It's interesting I built it as hacky prototype but I've never come around finishing it even though I've been using it somewhat regularly for 5 years or so. Or I write down things on paper.

    The least ceremony required for the process, to me, seems is the only long-term solution. But I appreciate this another take on it.

    1. laurieherault 1 days ago
      So approximately 6 months, considering that I usually give up on any somewhat complex system after about a week.

      But I agree with everything you said, especially the part about how we need to be minimalist when it comes to task management.

    2. TimByte 16 hours ago
      Sometimes the best tool really is just the one that's easiest to keep using
  8. Noelia- 19 hours ago
    A while ago, I tried writing tasks on sticky notes at home and crumpling them up to toss in the trash once they were done. It felt pretty satisfying at first, but writing each note took too much time, and I eventually gave up.

    Now that I’ve seen the idea of using a thermal printer to print out little task tickets, it instantly feels like a much easier system. I’m planning to get one next week and see if it actually helps me get started more easily than writing things by hand.

    1. causal 10 hours ago
      The biggest killer for any task tracker I find is an accumulating backlog of items that seem too important to quit but too intractable to make progress on. Often it's those exploding-in-complexity type things that you thought would taken an hour and it's constantly requiring refactoring into more tasks.

      Accumulate enough of those and you start finding yourself writing more notes than you are crumpling them and can get demoralized pretty quickly every time you look at the board.

    2. jimbokun 7 hours ago
      > but writing each note took too much time

      Your tasks must be too granular, if writing it down is a noticeable part of the effort you expend in a day.

      Maybe use somewhat larger tasks so you don't notice the overhead of writing it down so much?

  9. PaulHoule 2 days ago
    I had a time when my condition was acting up and I was struggling to deal with JIRA and got the idea of making paper tickets with a receipt printer. I bought a few receipt printers on Ebay and learned how to use them but never really wound up coupling them to JIRA because handwritten tickets were good enough and my condition got better. Wound up printing a lot of Pokémon characters do, as reference art for Pokémon is intended for low-quality small screens and does great on thermal printers.

    You can get a range of different thermal printer types, one discovery I made was that if you went looking for thermal printers in North America and looked for a width in millimeters you'd get cheap Chinese printers that were often adequate, if you looked for a width in inches you'd get name brand printers that were more expensive. Most thermal printers these days connect to USB but you can get one that connects to Ethernet which I think is ideal if you want something to be controlled by a server.

    1. laurieherault 2 days ago
      That gives me an idea. We could have some kind of random character that comes out with each task from the printer, with different rarity levels. It is an idea that might hook some people and help them stay consistent.

      Yes, I have a printer with both RJ45 and USB. I spent a bit more to get that, so I can stay flexible depending on what I want to do with it.

      1. kortex 2 days ago
        "I got a shiny task!"

        Absolutely brilliant. It's so stupid (in that it's kind of silly how easy it is to game our mammal brain) but I can absolutely see this giving an extra kick of motivation.

        Have you heard of the INCUP model for ADHD? Interest, Novelty, Challenge, Urgency, and Passion. The more factors an activity has, the more drive the ADHD mind has. Rarity system adds novelty and a bit of passion.

        Also if you have looked into operant conditioning at all, you know that variable interval reward schedules are the strongest behavior-forming systems (hence, slot machines and every game that act like them).

        1. laurieherault 1 days ago
          Yes, I was familiar with the concept of INCUP, but I had never seen it summarized so simply.

          As for variable interval rewards, I knew about the concept, but I did not include it in the article because it is already too long, and also because I have not yet found a smart way to use it in my productivity system.

          1. abadar 1 days ago
            I tried creating my own loot box reward system where I earn points for completing tasks (literally spare change), and I can use the money to buy a die roll, with a d20 dictating what prize I got. Prizes would be things like permission to buy Pokémon cards or a full price video game, etc, with a guaranteed "high rarity" prize every X rolls.

            Maybe it'd be fun to combine this with your receipts, where random tasks reward points to earn prizes.

            Or maybe this is just more procrastination!

            1. user_7832 16 hours ago
              > Or maybe this is just more procrastination!

              Well, what is life but procrastinating on death?

    2. TimByte 16 hours ago
      Now you've got me thinking about hacking one of these into my home network for random reminders or even silly prints from friends.
  10. LeonM 17 hours ago
    I was diagnosed with ADHD at 38, and never expected to hear that diagnosis. Main reason was my misunderstanding of what ADHD is. Like most people, I just naively associated ADHD with hyperactive kids, and thought I was just lazy and having procrastination issues.

    Now that I understand it so much better, I start to recognise it everywhere. After reading first paragraph of the article, I immediately though: Laurie must have ADHD!

    For ADHD the things that often help are: breaking tasks up into smaller tasks and having a way of tracking progress. You don't want to do that on a screen, your phone is a distraction device!

    I write my to-do lists on a paper notebook so I can tick them off. But the label printer idea is also a smart one! Though maybe a bit over-engineered, but I guess that was just a way for Laurie to procrastinate on the solution ;-)

    1. afro88 16 hours ago
      Genuine question: isn't this everyone? Don't we all find large tasks hard to start and so we procrastinate? Isn't it common general advice for all people to break things down into smaller steps so you can get going
      1. karpierz 14 hours ago
        Here's an analogy that might make it clearer:

        Alice is in a wheelchair.

        Bob has a broken leg.

        Charlie is unfit, but otherwise a healthy adult.

        Alice, Bob, and Charlie would all say "I find getting up the hills of San Francisco difficult". But "doesn't everyone find that hard" conflates the causes and severity of the difficulty for the three of them in a way that isn't useful for making their complaints feel heard, or addressing the complaints such that they don't have that issue.

        For example:

        Alice could get an electric wheelchair.

        Bob could take public transit / Ubers up, or get rides from their friends.

        Charlie could take up running with friends.

        1. PoignardAzur 14 hours ago
          Right. But then when someone says "I see the symptom of broken legs everywhere now. When the blog author said they had trouble getting up the hills of San Francisco, I just knew they must have an undiagnosed broken leg", it's fair to be more than a little skeptical.
          1. imzadi 13 hours ago
            It seems silly because a broken leg is obvious and easy to diagnose. So the idea that someone has an undiagnosed broken leg is absurd.

            A lot of illnesses are not as easy to spot. Even illnesses that have clear diagnostic factors might be undiagnosed if no one has done the right tests. For instance, gallbladder disease. Easy to test and diagnose, but only if someone has gone to the doctor and the doctor has done the right tests. If you've experienced gallbladder disease, you know the symptoms. So you might start noticing them in other people who just think its indigestion or a pulled muscle or whatever.

        2. staticman2 13 hours ago
          That analogy ignores what was actually confusing about this topic. A better analogy would be:

          Alice has a medical problem related to hill walking so she walks up the hill wearing sneakers, Bob also had a medical problem related to hill walking so he uses a handkerchief to wipe off his sweat while walking up the hill, and Charlie, the out of shape adult, also uses sneakers and a handkerchief but not in a medical way even though his feet hurt without sneakers and he does sweat.

        3. afro88 6 hours ago
          ADHD-I has a range of symptoms where the person needs 5 or more that are significantly disruptive to their life for at least 6 months.

          So when someone reads the first paragraph and immediately thinks the author has to be ADHD because they talk about 1 of these symptoms that in isolation the majority of the world has, I ask "but aren't we all like this?"

      2. 0xAFFFF 15 hours ago
        Most symptoms of ADHD are things almost everybody experiences from time to time, some even regularly. What makes ADHD is combination of many symptoms cranked to 11.

        ADHD is the difference between having difficulties starting some tasks and being absolutely unable to start a mundane task until you curl yourself into a corner and cry.

        That being said, things that help people coping with ADHD can totally help people not having ADHD but suffering similar issues (case in point: planning and handling tasks)

        1. adhdsucks 9 hours ago
          (throwaway account for anonymity)

          > ADHD is the difference between having difficulties starting some tasks and being absolutely unable to start a mundane task until you curl yourself into a corner and cry.

          Can't agree with this enough.

          I'm currently suffering from absolutely crippling procrastination.

          I'm a successful respected principal engineer with 25+ years industry experience but in the last couple of years my procrastination has got so so much worse. I've just got through my third PIP (Performance Improvement Plan) in the last 18 months. Thankfully my employer believes in me and continues to give me a chance, but they're not a charity and they've made it clear that I need to continue to perform or I'm gone.

          For example, the last PIP I knew exactly what I had to do, it was agreed in advance and completely fair. I should have had no problem completing everything without having to work silly hours. I just needed to grind my way through it and apply my experience and expertise as and when needed (when to escalate, etc). Instead I sat on things for weeks and weeks until the fear and panic of not being able to provide for my family (I'm the sole earner in the house) started to really hit and give me the necessary motivation. It was an immensely stressful position I put myself in. (To be clear, the company is awesome, they're very supportive and they really want me to succeed.)

          Taking any significant time off isn't an option. It's not burnout (been there, done that). I can't afford not to be working. We're stretched very thin already due to other medical problems amongst my immediate family but we can get by if I'm working. Changing companies isn't going to solve anything either; my current employer is not the problem. I am. Anywhere else would probably be far worse.

          It is utterly crippling at times; and the majority of the time. I can sit at my desk for days and do 30 minutes of "work" each day. Then the deadlines hove into view and I'm doing a days worth of work in 30 minutes.

          I'm awaiting an official ADHD diagnosis and expect to be diagnosed with Inattentive type. Hopefully medication will make things easier for me.

          I should have gone down the diagnosis route many years ago but, guess what, procrastination.

          1. AppleBananaPie 4 hours ago
            When I was this way there were two things going on 1. It was one of the most stressful times in my life 2. I didn't know I had sleep apnea so was always exhausted

            2 was a much quicker fix than 1 and boy did it makes things much more manageable and at least get me going in a positive direction.

            Also for the meds part they are literally life changing for me so hopefully they help you.

            Good luck out there hope you find something that works :)

      3. poulpy123 15 hours ago
        With mental illnesses there is no clear limit between normal and sick. However there is a point when it's really hurting the person afflicted.

        For example procrastination: everyone procrastinate more or less, but in people with ADHD, procrastination happens even when they actively don't want to procrastinate, and even when it hurts them right now to procrastinate.

        Another example : depression. It's not easy from an external point of view to see where is the limit between sadness and depression, however at one point the sadness has no objective reason, and is so overwhelming the brain that the person cannot function normally or is able to mentally fight it

        1. jonnybgood 14 hours ago
          > procrastination happens even when they actively don't want to procrastinate, and even when it hurts them right now to procrastinate.

          That applies to just about everyone. It’s why there are countless books and articles on defeating procrastination.

          1. aaronbaugher 13 hours ago
            No, most people have never found themselves staring at a pile of unpaid bills and collection notices, while knowing there's work they should be doing that would pay those bills...and feeling physically and mentally incapable of starting that work. Not "I don't wanna" or "I'd rather play games right now," but "I know I should do that, I know it would make my life better and I want that so bad...but I just can't."

            It's horrible, and definitely not something that applies to just about everyone.

            1. derektank 12 hours ago
              I do need to push back because I think what you're describing here is an emotional dysfunction, not an executive dysfunction, and I think the former really is a nearly universal experience to some degree or another. Maybe not all the time but certainly some of the time.

              I had never experienced this exact scenario before my thirties but I ran into an exceptionally busy period in my life where I found myself overwhelmed with tasks and accidentally ignored my credit cards for a couple months. I eventually realized this, but I put it off for at least another month, even though every other day I was thinking about it and I wanted to solve the problem, knowing it was an easy problem to fix and that I had the time to solve it despite being busy. The reason I didn't was because of fear, the dread of the unknown (how bad were the overage charges going to be?) but also a fear of being faced with such an obvious failure, even though objectively I knew the loss would be trivial.

              I think this drives most forms of procrastination, certainly everyone I've talked to about it (parents, friends, coworkers) describe it in similar words, comparing it to the anticipation of touching a hot stove, etc.

          2. idiotsecant 13 hours ago
            I get that this is partly HN devils advocacy and partly a very human bias towards thinking all brains are your brain, but it's like saying that everyone has creaky joints so people with arthritis are just complaining too much.

            Inattentive type ADHD makes you physically incapable of concentration. Procrastination is a symptom of the underlying problem, which is that the attention mechanism in your brain is chemically broken. People with this disorder are forced to 'manually' drive executive functions in a way that people with fully functioning norepinephrine synthesis systems can't really understand.

            It is surmountable, but it's very hard and it's an 'invisible' condition. The sad thing is that most people with this (actual, real, chemically identifiable) condition spend most of their lives internalizing that they are lazy and worthless and desperately wishing they knew how to not be that. I have vivid memories of thinking those things when I was in elementary school. I am relatively high functioning now because I understand that my mind needs external control loops to keep me halfway productive but it comes with a whole lot of constant anxiety and shame that I can't do anything about.

            It's a real thing.

          3. poulpy123 13 hours ago
            No, it does not applies for everyone
        2. pchangr 14 hours ago
          I don’t think you understand depression. There’s a big difference between depression and sadness … like the difference between purple and green. They are just not comparable. This is not shades of a different color. My personal experience is: “I’m sad” and that can mean… “I want to cry” But If im depressed can be like “I’m happy.., and yet.. I don’t see the point of living.”
          1. staticman2 13 hours ago
            I doubt the distinction between depressed and not depressed is all that clear.

            I know scales like BDI 2 assign a number and use terms like:

            – BDI-II scoring:

            0-13 is considered none or minimal range depression;

            14-19 mild depression;

            20-28 moderate depression;

            29-63 severe depression.

            https://strokengine.ca/en/assessments/beck-depression-invent...

            There is no objective cutoff point is what I'm saying.

          2. poulpy123 13 hours ago
            > I don’t think you understand depression

            I think I understand very well

            1. pchangr 9 hours ago
              Then maybe it was just a choice of words. My main point was that being depressed is not the same as being sad like being happy is not the same as being manic.
      4. ubercore 16 hours ago
        I think with many things in psychiatry, yes this is a common experience, but part of a diagnosis is actually about it becoming a real problem in your life. We all have aspects of a lot of different things that become disorders depending on the impact they have in your life. Not a psychologist, but this is how I understand the distinction, and why the diagnostic criteria are set up the way they are.
      5. dazzawazza 15 hours ago
        There is a long running conversation within the medical profession about the usefulness of marginal diagnosis. When everyone has ADHD how do doctors help the people who really NEED help with ADHD. Who 'really' needs help is of course subjective.

        I think we can all agree that we are in a period of over medicalisation and we've combined that with a misconception that doctors/drugs/science can cure, and even should cure, everything.

      6. FrankyHollywood 15 hours ago
        Well people differ. Look around at your colleagues, some have dry eyes and lower back pain from working hours without interruption on a boring task.

        Others, like myself, are easily distracted, quickly bored and only work hard with a specific goal in mind. Working on smaller tasks makes it easier to not be distracted. I feel this is more important for people with ADHD.

        But you are right, in the end it is useful strategy for everyone :)

      7. pchangr 14 hours ago
        Advice for ADHD people helps everyone in the same way that any accessibility improvement commonly helps everyone.
      8. hashmal 12 hours ago
        Everyone experiences some symptoms of ADHD, ASD, etc. A genuine diagnostic is given when these symptoms become a big problem for daily life, work, social stuff, etc.
      9. Panoramix 15 hours ago
        It is everyone.
    2. TimByte 16 hours ago
      Every digital to-do app I've tried turns into another notification to ignore, or I end up doomscrolling instead of checking tasks off. The receipt/label printer idea is a little extra, but I get the appeal of making the process more tactile and even a bit fun. If it works, it works!
    3. namaria 17 hours ago
      Same story for me. What has really helped is trying to make initiating useful and desirable tasks easier and seeking distractions harder. Bit by bit, cultivating that mindset changes things for the better over time.

      The trap is usually "I've figured it out and this new system will solve my life" only to be burned out days or weeks later because this only addresses the symptoms and not that cause.

      Cultivating a more friendly environment has been a great help for me. That and taking notes.

      1. justanotherjoe 14 hours ago
        I rmemember what truly worked for me, as a chronic case, was a 1 day workweek. Granted I did work normal days, but I only mean things that cost motivation like side projects. On other days I even stopped myself when I started to kid myself about 'doing it'. It made me feel gross but that gross feeling helped when the scheduled day comes.

        I stopped doing it for some reason. But I remember it worked. For what it is.

  11. fidotron 2 days ago
    It's increasingly strange how psychologically different something is when it's physically in front of you vs a representation of that exact same thing on a particular sort of display, especially given apparently some representations of activities on the display are addictive, while others become repulsive. As I mentioned yesterday I'm hearing more from people that attempt to avoid screens as much as possible, and this seems like yet another manifestation of that tendency.

    If our UIs were more skeumorphic would that help with all this and remove the need for the physical printer?

    1. PaulHoule 2 days ago
      It's not the skeumorphism but this:

      I might have 5 virtual desktops and 3 different web browsers and each of those has 4 windows open and each window has 20 tabs. Never mind the terminal windows which themselves participate.

      Conventional thinking is that if you can't find things you need to download and install some new program, maybe one that splits your tabs into "subtabs" or maybe one that organizes your virtual desktops into "virtual superdesktops", etc. Trouble is now you have another thing to find with all your desktops, windows, and tabs! You just can't win that way even though people insist that you can.

      Paper, however, is privileged because it lives off the desktop. It doesn't disappear when you switch tabs, it doesn't disappear when you switch windows, it doesn't disappear when you switch virtual desktops. You can tape it here or there and it stays there even through reboots.

      1. coliveira 2 days ago
        Correct. Computers are the realm of procrastination because there are so many ways work can hide and so many forms it can morph into. If you need to work from paper, there's not much you can do other than move through it. It may get disorganized, but it is still there. There is no question that modern workers have exponentially more reason to procrastinate than workers from 50 years ago.
      2. fidotron 2 days ago
        Do not Mac sticky notes do all that, except they don't live in the physical domain?

        Isn't it just reflective of the fact that you are more disciplined about tidying up your physical world than the virtual one? (And this might be the basis for why the hack works).

        1. PaulHoule 2 days ago
          I switch virtual desktops.

          Physical objects don't disappear.

          I switch tabs.

          Physical objects don't disappear.

          The power goes out.

          Physical objects don't disappear.

          Hard to understand in 2025, isn't it?

          1. fidotron 2 days ago
            Mac Stickies absolutely can be set to float above everything else, and survive power outages (battery permitting) and reboots. It is true they are tied to the Space they are in though.

            They also have the advantages associated with not being physical of course.

            1. PaulHoule 2 days ago
              But they cover up things you might want to interact with on the screen!
              1. notpushkin 1 days ago
                I think an old e-ink reader could be the solution here.
        2. gatane 24 hours ago
          I see it like when you compare digital books vs physical books: physical requires less context in your mind, and it provides direct rather than abstract stimulus to the brain.

          When you go digital, your brain is writing the sticky note, but also has in its cache the instructions for the menu, the apps you normally use, that annoying notification, etc, plus your rl context. But on physical, you only have loaded the instructions for the pen and paper (and your rl context).

          Having too many things in mind can reduce your executive function battery. Hope this helps! (ofc, this is an oversimplification of ADHD)

    2. haswell 2 days ago
      I don’t think the issue is a lack of skeuomorphism. It’s more that the devices we use can’t replicate the feeling of something tangible that exists in the same space we do. And that these devices are bottomless portals to any number of other things unrelated to the task at hand.

      Picking up the phone to check my todo list puts me in contact with 100 unrelated things, and at some point becomes counterproductive.

      If something like the Apple Vision Pro was more accessible and wearing it was more like wearing eye glasses, I think its ability to render objects in space would make it more likely to be an effective interface for virtual task management. Emphasis on “more like wearing eye glasses” because it needs to be an always-on type of experience to come close to replicating a physical piece of paper.

    3. laurieherault 2 days ago
      You've started a very interesting discussion. I think that unfortunately nothing replaces paper. I understand Paul's comment, I have an infinite mess on my computer but on my desk I only have my paper tasks.
    4. tomrod 2 days ago
      I doubt it. Skeuomorphs make me think of ipods, Shadowrun and Papers Please.
  12. dackle 2 days ago
    This reminds me somewhat of a system by David MacIver: https://drmaciver.substack.com/p/using-a-list-to-manage-exec...

    He builds his list from scratch every morning. The list is flat, so as you go about your day and subtasks occur to you, they are added to the list without explicit links to the main task.

    I thought it might be risky to start with a blank list, because something important might be forgotten. But it turns out that a blank list is a great filter for what is truly important and motivating. If it is important, you will remember it at some point during the day.

    This system is also excellent for shorter periods of time. If I come home and want to get started on dinner, want to tidy up a bit and have a few other demands on my attention, I put my laptop in a central location, open up Notepad, and just start typing in everything I see around me that I need to do. Usually I start with maybe 5 items, but as I start doing things I quickly add tasks to the list, and it might grow to 15 or 20 items. But then at some point the list starts to shrink again as these small, granular tasks are completed. It is strangely satisfying to see the list initially grow and then shrink to nothing. It also leaves me with a feeling of having thoroughly attended to everything that was bothering me when I first walked in the door.

    1. heygarrett 1 days ago
      > If it is important, you will remember it at some point during the day.

      As someone with ADHD I’ve never found this to be true. I often forget to eat. I’d forget to file my taxes without reminders.

      1. rogueparitybit 1 days ago
        We're on the same brainwave. Literally thought to myself, "but I forget to eat all the time" and scrolled down to see this.

        ADHD obviously can make stuff like this hard, and most neurotypical people seem to operate on a "if it's important I'll remember it" mentality, which I'm incredibly jealous of. I still haven't found a good system for tracking important tasks without getting "overloaded" with too many tasks and/or subtasks.

      2. SamPatt 22 hours ago
        Serious question: in those scenarios, do you never have awareness about your need to eat? Or does it occur at some point, but then you decide not to eat at the moment, and after making that decision then you never revisit it?

        I ask because I often realize I'm hungry or it's time to eat, but I'm too engaged in the task I'm doing and I think "I'll eat a bit later" and then once I've done that the first time I often never consider again, at least until the next meal time. I wonder if that's what people mean when they say it, or if the idea of stopping for a meal simply didn't even occur to them?

        1. dgunay 2 hours ago
          I don't usually forget to eat, but this happens to me all the time for tasks that don't have a physical feedback mechanism.

          I missed a doctor's appointment today because I didn't remember to schedule a corresponding "you need to leave the house _now_" alarm to go with the calendar event, which I forgot about because I looked at my calendar once in the morning and the appointment was in the afternoon.

          I will remember _some_ tasks if they "are important", but those are typically things that cause me enough anxiety that I just don't ever actually stop thinking about them until they are done. I can't really do reliable just in time recall of tasks unless it is for something I have deeply internalized into a habit.

        2. small_scombrus 18 hours ago
          Not the person you asked, but in my experience one or multiple of the following happen:

          - I just don't notice I'm hungry (this one happens most to me)

          - I notice I'm hungry but get distracted and forget

          - I notice I'm hungry but I don't have the energy to devote to making/finding food

          - I notice I'm hungry and I straight up don't care even though I'm aware I should

          1. heygarrett 8 hours ago
            Yep, everything here, plus “Why am I dizzy? Oh, I haven’t eaten anything in 15 hours.”
        3. flakeoil 19 hours ago
          How do you get so engage in the tasks you are doing so you forget to eat? I suppose most people here have the opposite issue, we do not engage in the task at all and once we start, we stop doing it after a short while because we find a more interesting things to do such as eating, grab a coffee or reading HN, news etc. We would love to be able to stay on the task and not go and eat.
          1. SamPatt 3 hours ago
            It's not like this for every task. But for the ones I find interesting, yes, it's nice to be able to focus like this.

            Of course there are tradeoffs.

        4. komali2 12 hours ago
          Quite literally, my awareness vanishes into the task or nothing at all. The conscious experience of it is basically blinking at 2pm and discovering it's actually 7pm and I'm dizzy for some reason.
      3. dboreham 1 days ago
        Heck I forget things between remembering I need to do it and adding it to the list, in the time it takes to get my phone out and open the todo app.
      4. borski 1 days ago
        I have reminders and still forget to pay my property taxes sometimes.
      5. Flowzone 1 days ago
        Oh shit, this just reminded me that I have a tax deadline this week. I ignored the reminder from a few days ago.
    2. kaashif 1 days ago
      > It’s been my experience that any TODO list system I use will acquire an ugh field around it that gradually turns it into a thing I’m guiltily avoiding.

      Considering that all of my tasks come from my to-do list and there's no way at all I could remember the dozens of tasks on my to-do list (I'm a manager, maybe that makes it worse), it's actually just impossible for me to avoid my list. Guiltily or otherwise.

      The list doesn't make me anxious, having all of these tasks undone makes me anxious. Forgetting them makes me anxious. Having everything written down then doing everything and being on top of everything keeps me calm and sane.

      > If it is important, you will remember it at some point during the day.

      Varies person by person. My memory is nowhere near good enough for this to be true.

      1. laurieherault 1 days ago
        The type of job can definitely vary a lot in terms of the number of tasks and their complexity.
    3. laurieherault 1 days ago
      I did not know about this article, thank you! It definitely goes deep into task breakdown, just like what I am proposing. But I have a hard time starting from an empty list in the morning, because I can totally forget that I need to work if I do not jump straight into my tasks (ADHD brain).
    4. andai 1 days ago
      >it turns out that a blank list is a great filter for what is truly important and motivating. If it is important, you will remember it at some point during the day.

      I started using GTD, but due to sprawling list overwhelm, evolved it into nanoGTD, where I start each day with a blank page and recreate my projects and next actions from memory/imagination.

      This works best on paper. To make sure nothing fell through the cracks, I just turn to the previous page.

    5. bluGill 1 days ago
      The real value of paper year planner books is your todo list can't grow to infinate length - if you don't do something today you have to decide at the end of the day will you forget about it or manually copy it to tommorow.

      it is easy to make todo items. The hard part is realzing you can't do everything and you must not do something

    6. kamaal 2 days ago
      It would do people a whole lot of good, if they start looking at a great day as executing well tested 'checklist' rather than a 'todo list' built from scratch every day.

      No wonder some of the most productive people like Knuth, or people like presidents many times have fixed schedules, clothes they wear, food they eat etc etc.

      If something is working, do it more often, you want to do more of what works, at some point things that don't work wont be on your check list.

      1. turtlebits 1 days ago
        You can't generalize. Everyone has things that work for them.

        Taking a few minutes to recreate that todo list for the day from a blank slate helps my brain get ready for the day and makes me more productive. (akin to stretching before exercise). I don't need a checklist for eating, cleaning, etc, but maybe some do.

        1. aaronbaugher 1 days ago
          I'm going to try that too. An ongoing todo list just starts to slip from my mind. I have a whiteboard in my kitchen, where I figured I'd write tasks I needed to do and erase them off when I finished them, so it'd be a continuous todo list. But after a while, it'd slip my mind and I'd go weeks without even seeing the whiteboard in my awareness, and then when I did remember it was there, it'd be half outdated and I'd have to start all over.

          Getting into the daily habit of using any tool/method in the first place is the hard part for me, so making it as tangible as possible and not-too-convenient might help.

        2. kamaal 24 hours ago
          A recipe has a great chance of success, there are few such recipes.

          If you think you will try out a new recipe from scratch everyday it shouldn't be surprising if most of your days don't add up to much, or even add up to a negative.

          1. small_scombrus 17 hours ago
            > A recipe has a great chance of success, there are few such recipes.

            My partner vibe-cooks and it's almost always great.

            I follow recipes I know will work because if I deviate the food will be BAD

            This sort of thing seriously is dependent on the person

  13. vidarh 1 days ago
    > The rule is simple: the more you procrastinate on a task, the more you should break it down into micro-tasks, even ones that take just 2 to 5 minutes in extreme cases.

    This.

    When I catch myself procrastinating, it often helps immensely to push myself to at least subdivide a task on my todo list further. Then try to push myself to do one of them, and if I still resist, try to subdivide tasks further.

    I then move the task to a Done list by pressing a keyboard combo.

    The only purpose of my Done list is exactly providing feedback the way the article recommends.

    I never look back over past days "Done" entries. My Done list exists only there so that when I marka task done on my TODO list, the Done file that's open on the same virtual desktop gets the entry added to the top, under today's date, so I get the satisfaction of seeing the list grow. I used to just strike them out in my TODO list, by I found I like it better to see the TODO list actually empty out.

    I could probably just wipe it every morning, but it feels satisfying knowing I have the timestamped records even though I never look at them.

    1. laurieherault 1 days ago
      Yes, the feeling of having made progress is so important. That little thing can sometimes be enough to lift our spirits on a day when we are not feeling our best.
  14. tines 1 days ago
    This is a topic that's really interesting to me, and I've thought a lot about it.

    The approach that this guy is taking to break out of the addicting loop of gaming/scrolling/whatever is to try to take the principles that make those things appealing and port them to the things that we know we should be doing. Video games have these short feedback loops and quick rewards, so his idea is to make real life more like a video game, in some small way. I was surprised to see that even this website has little achievements in the bottom right corner, when you scroll or see a section for the first time you'll get a little popup congratulating you.

    There's nothing evil or wrong about this on the surface, of course. But I wonder if it's not making the situation worse by ingraining a need for quick feedback and frequent external affirmation into wider and wider areas of our lives. In one of my favorite books of all time, Amusing ourselves to Death, Neil Postman talks about the "entertainmentification" of education. The book makes the brilliant and alarming insight that over the centuries, all of humanity's efforts have gone into dealing with the problem of lacking information (and, I would add, entertainment). But now we have the opposite problem: we are so flooded with information, and entertainment, we don't know how to handle it, and society is totally unprepared. If memory serves, Postman warns that we are becoming a people who can't do anything that isn't entertaining. And this was published in 1985, long before Tiktok and its ilk.

    Another approach, which admittedly does require some mental strength, is to allow oneself to get bored. Boredom is the mother of invention. I have a theory that our brain has a preferred level of stimulation; if external stimulation is high, internal stimulation will diminish to achieve the desired total; and if external stimulation is low, internal stimulation will increase. The most productive and satisfying times I've ever had in my life have been when I cut myself off from cheap entertainment. When I do that, suddenly I enjoy the hard things again.

    I have another theory, that great things are accomplished by people with nothing else to do. If we allow ourselves to swim in an environment of endless entertainment, we're effectively kneecapping our ability to do great things.

    ---

    Also, isn't handling a lot of receipt paper bad for you or something?

    1. mavilia 1 days ago
      > Also, isn't handling a lot of receipt paper bad for you or something?

      Yes if you are worried about microplastics. Dr. Rhonda Patrick has an episode where she talks about receipts specifically (at the 1hr 2m mark) [0].

      To paraphrase: thermal paper receipts are loaded with BPA which gets absorbed through your skin. The chemicals are worse too since the plastics for receipts aren't scrutinized like they would be for a food storage item. They use BPA is used as a color developer in thermal printing.

      It gets way worse if you've used hand sanitizer, lotion, or sunscreen recently since those increase skin permeability. Studies show dramatically higher absorption rates when your skin barrier is compromised. Although I can't find a link for that right now.

      Definitely something to think about if you're a cashier or work somewhere handling receipts all day. I've started just declining receipts unless I actually need them for returns/expense reports.

      [0] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTzw_grLzjw

    2. __turbobrew__ 1 days ago
      I have similar ideas from my own experience. I believe that humans have a “set point” for dopamine hits, if you are constantly receiving quick cheap dopamine hits your set point goes higher and you are constantly craving more. Similarly, if you back off the hits it will initially become uncomfortable but your set point will lower and you will not have those cravings.

      This may be controversial, but I believe a part of the prevalence of ADHD in younger people is that their set point is unnaturally high from childhood as they never learned how to be bored.

      This is my mental model as I personally have observed my set point change throughout my life. I think it makes sense logically as well as these small dopamine hits can become addictive like anything else, just to a lesser extent than something like heroin.

    3. gatane 23 hours ago
      To add on top of this, it is interesting when you link it to ADHD and related conditions. Where do you draw the line between "low" executive function (core adhd symptom) and "normal"?

      One may argue that if society were simpler or different than today, many of such cases would not be a problem as it is nowadays, kinda like people wearing glasses: you dont ask if they cant see or if they need help, because they have the proper tools (glasses) and environment (our own perception) that fully accomodate them when needed.

      This could also apply to other things, but I am mind-wandering. Maybe somebody could draw more links to stuff like this.

    4. laurieherault 1 days ago
      I agree with everything you wrote. But for many people, giving up what entertains them is just not possible. That is why I think my method can really help those people. Thank you for this very interesting comment.

      As for the paper, you need to choose one that is bisphenol-free, otherwise it is obviously problematic.

      1. tines 1 days ago
        Appreciate the thought-provoking article and your comments, thank you!
    5. TimByte 16 hours ago
      The boredom thing resonates a lot. My most creative or focused streaks usually start after a few days of digital detox
  15. reverendsteveii 2 days ago
    my receipt printer is a whiteboard in the gym. I went from "I do some scattered, random assortment of lifts when I feel like it" to "I have 3 routines I cycle through every day" and what it took was writing down each routine and tracking the weight I did last time. Checking off my daily workout is my pulling a ticket down off the chore kanban. Every once in a while, as I get stronger, I get to "take a number off the board" meaning I've surpassed that amount of weight in my routine (eg: after a few weeks of doing 25 pound lateral shoulder raises I'm able to bump my routine up to 30. if no other exercises use 25 pound dumbbells I can erase the 25 off the board). That's my "dumping out the jar". It's worked for 2 years, I've gone from being at best a dilettante in this space to losing 50 pounds, gaining the ability to bench press my weight and, and this is the important part, I feel good about my body for the first time in my forty years. I think the difference is that it's several gameplay loops at once. The short loop is "do today's workout, get today's dopamine pop", the medium term loop is "let me see if I can work out more days this month than last month" and the long term loop is "let me see if I can get strong enough that 30 pounds is trivial for me". With those multiple, simultaneous loops there's a variety in the (ephemeral, immaterial, entirely made up and internal) reward that stops it from becoming meaningless. I think OP's system has a parallel structure: the two reward loops are completing a ticket and emptying the jar.
    1. hk1337 1 days ago
      > and what it took was writing down each routine and tracking the weight I did last time.

      I think there's a huge connection to physically writing it as opposed to typing and printing. I never did anything with the weight lifting logs, I thought I might, but the most I ever did with anything in the past was looking at the progression from the last few days or weeks.

      1. reverendsteveii 1 days ago
        I really do think that there's something reifying about the physical act of writing it down. I think that because in one of my many stutterstepping starts into the world of weightlifting I tried keeping a log on my phone and it did all the same things that keeping a log on the wall does (arguably more, the whiteboard doesn't track historical data and can't automatically generate charts for me) but it just felt like shouting numbers into the void every day. There was no sense of job-well-done satisfaction when I hit a personal best, there was no little ceremony of removing a number from the board to make room for a new, higher number. There was just a bunch of individual workouts and I either did them or I didn't and no one cared either way, including me.
    2. laurieherault 1 days ago
      Yes, that is exactly it. The tools may be different, but the essence of the method is exactly the same.
  16. dclowd9901 1 days ago
    One trick I learned a while back to just sort of get my mind right first thing in the morning was to make my bed. I got it from a TV show, The Bridge, I think. It's such a small and seemingly insignificant act, but the routine is comforting and it feels good to have done something that will also bring me comfort when I go to lay down that night. It's nice coming to lay down in a nicely made bed.

    I'd love to learn more of these sorts of little actions that bring calm and joy to my brain.

  17. dukoid 2 days ago
    One "trick" that helped me some times: If you don't make progress with a task, count breaking it down into subtasks as an accomplishment
    1. Viliam1234 1 days ago
      In computer systems, this could be added by default as the first subtask when you create a task: "either do the entire thing, or split it into smaller parts".
  18. mike_ivanov 1 days ago
    My mom carries with her a physical notebook in which one full page is one day. The left side of the spread is for the task list, the right side contains notes/comments. When a task is done it gets crossed over. When the day is over, she manually copies important leftovers to the next day. The other (flip) side of the notebook is for longer running projects, similar approach. Naturally, she has to replace the notebook a few times a year. She says the secret sauce is the tedium of copying the leftovers, that's how she finds the balance between over- and under-planning.
    1. laurieherault 1 days ago
      I really like the way your mom does things.
      1. mike_ivanov 1 days ago
        She's a smart one, I could share more :-)
  19. meganlanziello 1 days ago
    I did my version of this way:

    1) 3x5 cards printed on a printer dedicated to this task 2) Command line routine where I can: a) Enter tasks b) Be able to update card by putting in the card number assigned to the task (which also includes a date). c) Be able to reprint a card if needed d) Be able to view the card on the screen (obviously).

    Written in bash.

    This is not to be clear to do things that are procrastination but rather to be able to keep track various things that I want to get done the next day or other info that I want physically able to view on my physical desktop during the day.

    (I hate to handwrite and can type very well so...)

    The 3x5 card printout will contact a checkbox where you can just ink check any item.

    The routine makes sure that you only type in the correct number of characters per line so it doesn't wrap.

    I then modified this to be able to use larger index cards.

    Index cards lay flat on the desk (as opposed to a receipt printer).

    Important to have a dedicated printer for this taks otherwise to much friction changing paper.

    1. entrepy123 1 days ago
      What kind of printer prints 3x5" (or larger) index cards well?

      IME most printers struggle with printing thicker cardstock, or non-normal sizes, e.g. trouble with keeping that size paper straight or with bending/feeding.

      Is it just a normal-sized printer, or are there special index-card printers?

      1. meganlanziello 1 days ago
        Brother HL-6200DW (or similar variation). Before that I used another brother printer. When I researched (noting this was years ago) that was the only one that it would work with (may be others now). I had tried on various HP printers but they didn't work. Now you have to be careful how many cards you stack in the manual hopper also it works but not super robust.
    2. laurieherault 1 days ago
      I really like your system!
  20. akavel 1 days ago
    There's also a kind of super-cheap Bluetooth "Chinese" thermal receipt printers, also known as "kitty printer" or "cat printer". There's plenty of reverse-engineered software for printing to them in a number of languages; one I use is: https://print.unseen-site.fun/ The disadvantage is they don't cut automatically, and their "cutter teeth" are super crappy. But cheap!
    1. shayway 1 days ago
      I have a version without cutter teeth at all, what I did was take a piece of the cutter thing from an aluminum foil roll and attach it to the printer. Works perfectly. Looks a little menacing though.
  21. orangebread 2 days ago
    I truly appreciate how well thought out this post is. However, it's one of those things where if you didn't have motivation in the first place, it's not going to work. I've tried atomic habits. I've tried different ideas from social media of grouping rooms and things into piles to sort.

    Sure, I'll get it done... eventually. But no amount of gamification will motivate me to put this much effort into habitual cleaning. I hope the author's strategy helps someone, but it assumes you have the motivation but not the methodology.

    1. dgb23 2 days ago
      If you can, actively examine your thoughts/emotions and dissect them from a distance so to speak, when you feel stuck and have trouble to reach for motivation.

      There's a power in simply accepting that it's just a feeling, whether you're tired, motivated, hungry... The feeling that you want instead, is a sort of disassociation. The stronger the feeling, the harder it will be. And then you just do the thing you need to do despite lacking motivation or being tired or whatever.

      There's something liberating about it that is a bit difficult to put into words. Like "fuck it, I'm going to do it anyway". Sounds a bit stupid, but it's not entirely wrong.

      However it's not a magic trick, but rather a kind of thought muscle you can try to train so to speak. It works for me increasingly, despite being quite terrible at this kind of thing. Or rather two muscles: One is creating a distance/objectivity to your feeling or state of mind, the other is to start the action. Sometimes the second part is almost automatic once you do the first part well from my experience.

      1. amendegree 1 days ago
        Yup, and conversely, we’ve all trained the opposite “muscle” that basically says “I don’t wanna so I won’t”. Being aware of your feelings and emotions is the first step to being in control. Most people fail to adequately understand themselves and thus fail to ever overcome their lizard brain behaviors.
    2. laurieherault 2 days ago
      Actually, my method works even with very very very little motivation. The idea is that having a list of easy, routine micro-tasks ready in the morning gives you momentum. Even on a day when I have no motivation at all, I still reach a basic, acceptable level of productivity.

      I even gave an example in my article about this for initial cleaning, specifically with emails. We usually wait for a day when we feel motivated to sort everything out, but that day never comes, and we end up never doing the task. The idea is to have one micro-task every day, like processing a maximum of five emails. Or even five separate tasks of one email each. And on a day when you really have no motivation, you just push yourself to handle one overdue email.

    3. Void_ 2 days ago
      What helps me is to set up "morning routine" with tasks such as:

      - get up with alarm - make the bed - shave - take vitamins - read 5 pages

      Checking off 10 small tasks right in the morning sets me for a productive mood.

  22. fencepost 11 hours ago
    Coming to this a day late, but what immediately jumped to mind was David Seah's "Task Order Up" https://davidseah.com/node/the-task-order-up/ system.

    My biggest concern (besides "following through with this? hollow laugh") is when you're not always working in the same place - either hybrid or going to customer sites.

  23. lionpixel 2 days ago
    This idea really resonates. Like others have mentioned, there's a unique power to a physical artifact that a digital to-do list just can't replicate. I went down this exact rabbit hole a while back, trying to bridge the gap between my digital planning and physical, actionable "tickets." The setup part can be a bit of a pain, especially getting a printer reliably online and talking to it from different apps and services. This is the exact problem I built Printercow¹ to solve (author here!). It's a small service that lets you turn any thermal printer into a networked API endpoint with a one-line install command on a Raspberry Pi. The idea is to handle all the backend plumbing so you can focus on the fun part—triggering prints from Zapier, a script, or your own app to create a system just like the author's. Happy to answer any questions about the setup!

    (¹) https://printercow.com

  24. hasbot 16 hours ago
    My problem is not only procrastination but motivation. Why should I be doing all these tasks? I appreciate having a clean house but having one isn't fulfilling or enjoyable. Am I just a work machine? I want to soar with the eagles not toll with the ants.
  25. matt_kantor 9 hours ago
    > Write each task on a sticky note. When you finish the task, crumple the note into a ball and throw it into a clear jar.

    I independently stumbled upon this same system. It sounds like the author takes it further than me (I don't create notes for routine/repeating tasks, and don't break them down so much—in a typical day I only complete around 2-3 notes).

    I've used sticky notes for years, but ~6 months ago added the jar (prior to that I just recycled them). It helps to have a visual reminder that I'm making progress over the long term, even if it doesn't feel like it some days.

    My current jar is just about full and I've been debating what to do with it. Save it as desk art? Find a bigger jar and transfer the notes? Burn them in a cathartic ritual? I'm open to suggestions.

    1. damascus 8 hours ago
      My gf and I are the stereotypical software nerd meets astrology girlie (but doesn't take it too far). She likes to do rituals every so often and I've found that it does create a moment of reflection that you can use however you like. The last time we were camping she told me she wanted to do one so I bought some of that fire color changing powder (mostly just fine metal shavings of various types) and then glued a bit of that on some paper and made sort of a paper packet and then I had the whole group write on a packet something they wanted to let go of and then we all tossed them into the fire at the same time and the fire changed colors. It was pretty magical and I scored a lot of brownie points! So you could sprinkle some of that into your jar and just toss a handleful into the fire and watch the magic of your productivity ascend to the heavens. Or, you know, just watch physics at work.
  26. abhaynayar 11 hours ago
    I have been TickTick for daily-habit tracking for years now. It has a monthly GitHub-like graph widget for phones which is amazing for feedback. I also use TickTick for misc. task-tracking like "laundry", "buy apple", etc.

    Then for non-recurring areas like job-tasks, I use a separate tool with a simple Kanban board. Prior to Kanban, I used to just track time, and write a list of things I did for the day, but I realized there was no feedback and it was just a passive "I did this stuff".

    So coming from that, a Kanban board has been god-sent. Because otherwise Parkinson's Law was a common occurrence for me. Each task in the board is somewhat tied to a project/outcome through a tag. So there is a feedback/working-backwards/active concept to it. I have just started using it, but the more I use it, the more I automatically learn how to set better tasks, because otherwise they do not go from TODO -> DOING -> DONE.

  27. trainyperson 2 days ago
    I like how the author mentioned typing speed tests as a “warm up” to the day. I frequently find myself going to do a typing speed test when I’m at my desk but unable to work, and have often wondered why I do that and if anyone else does that.
    1. laurieherault 2 days ago
      I am glad to see that I am not the only one doing this :)
      1. footy 1 days ago
        I do this too. I can tell from my MonkeyType graph which work periods I felt more demoralized or distracted during.
        1. laurieherault 1 days ago
          I had never thought of that, but you are right, it is a solid source of information.
  28. orphea 2 days ago
    I found this tool helpful with breaking things down to as small steps as you need: https://goblin.tools/
    1. laurieherault 2 days ago
      Yes, I know that tool, but the user experience really isn’t great. That’s why I made my own. But thanks for the suggestion :)
      1. orphea 2 days ago
        Oh, I should have read your article further enough!
        1. laurieherault 2 days ago
          Oh, did you procrastinate finishing the article? :)
          1. orphea 2 days ago
            Yeah, I bookmarked it to read it later! jk :P

            Seriously though, I'm going to try your idea with the receipt printer (I didn't need an excuse to buy it, no-no, that's not it, haha) and I'll see if it can help me. Sadly, even games cannot interest me for long enough; the longest I could play a game, recently, is a week, then I abandon it.

  29. psadri 1 days ago
    Back at Polyvore we used real post-it notes on a board to track progress. We had a weekly cadence but the tasks were granular enough to be completed in a day or two. Each week we’d peel off and crumble the completed tasks into a bin. It was a really satisfying experience in a way that digital facsimiles can’t quite match.
    1. laurieherault 1 days ago
      Totally agree, the tangible aspect cannot be imitated by anything digital.